I sense tension. I can only report on it and declare no allegiances. Fitzroyalty tells us that DN needs to meet Tres. Tres declares all over Rone's face that he has "sold our lifestyle out". I blame the unnecessary clean ups (Fitzroy is gentrified enough stop this purification!!!!) freaking us all out. Maybe you know the deeper story. Maybe it's a widening gap between purist crews and emerging artists. I will leave you all to ponder but will add to this debate that we need you all. Nufevah to Ghost Patrol, pieces to paste ups. The diversity articulates a dialogue that is of difference, but difference is at the core and it's good. I implore you all to raise the white flag for each other and declare war on the true enemy that is scrubbing down a wall as you read this...
Many people would consider calling taggers 'artists' misleading and offensive to artists. Like when we say 'latte' we mean the technically correct term 'caffe latte', when we say 'artist' we mean 'visual artist'. Tags are text, not graphic, and are therefore not art.
ReplyDeleteA pathetic ADD voice creaming from the existential void 'look at me, I exist' by tagging everywhere is not artistic expression. It's meaningless.
Hey Fitzroyalty I do take your point- I have it in my head sometimes this tension though and do wonder if it's deeper. Like I have seen pieces that I love by taggers that I commonly do not love so much and it makes me wonder. And as crazy as it sounds I think even this dialogue is good for the cause because we need to define and redefine. The more I look at Flys crew for example the more I see that they are actually complex and part of their dialogue is definately in the realms of visual. But that's not to say I don't hate the vandalism and destruction of really good art. Hmmm so much food for thought. I have really enjoyed following the debates on your blog and my jury keeps swaying from in to out. Cheers!
ReplyDeleteActually Lush is the best example I can think of - I find him fascinating and he is both a tagger and an artist. Hey btw definitely not wanting to offend anyone here, I do want to hear peoples thoughts though it helps me formulate my own! I am seriously annoyed at heaps if clean ups around the traps too - an awesome Kaffeine was taken down from near corner of Brunswick and Johnson :(
ReplyDeleteFUCK DN, he is a FUCKING COCKSUCKER!! And an extremely talentless fuckwit.
ReplyDeleteThanks Alex! Almost censored this but then recalled its just me trying not to swear (on a dare). Is that fair dincum? Bloody shits me too. But what i dont get with him is he seems to play by the rules a bit, like i have never seen him tag over anyone else...hey any idea who is doing the massive daggers ? I am undecided bout them. (fuck i just realised i swore).
ReplyDeleteI also just looked at my photos - yes he does tag all over other people. Dick nose if u read this - if neck face is your inspiration stop shitting us and give te good stuff a go.
ReplyDeleteto quote the man himself "anyone that thinks im cutting edge is an idiot, im the type of guy thatll steal your paint fuck your girl and ruin your peice...im putrid"
ReplyDeletehahahahha, that is the man himself indeed, haha fuck so true, Dn has the rawest style out there cause he's fallen outta his tree too many times, it's only odds that if you paint the same thing a thousand times you'll get a some good ones.
ReplyDeleteand a note to fitzroyalty, i am an artist in most contexts they have a word for and i think tagging is the art of words( stupid argument anyway but) art is an individuals perspective, Duel, one of melbournes top writers says" without the tag there is no graffitti"
I think you have no argument you just have a hatred for DN which is understandable but nevertheless irrelevant.
i think if you love or hate dn your an idiot cause both are equally pointless. It's like hating clouds or the sky or something.
Rore that is an awesome response, thank you, I may have to quote you some day...
ReplyDeleteHaha and quote you quoting them! Btw I couldn't agree more
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